Author Topic: Is this "Phase IV of Idiot Alert" or "Phase II of.................."  (Read 4793 times)

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Re: Is this "Phase IV of Idiot Alert" or "Phase II of.................."
« Reply #15 on: September 15, 2014, 10:46:13 PM »
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how about just buying a cheap cell tower surplused ovenized osc

Seriously?
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Re: Is this "Phase IV of Idiot Alert" or "Phase II of.................."
« Reply #16 on: September 15, 2014, 10:50:19 PM »
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When all the circuits will be ready, I can access a university lab to test them with an Agilent phase noise measurement system.

Yeah, and guess what........................

You don't know the tricks to measuring them. You won't get reliable data, below 1 Hz or so.

GFL, pal...................

And so what if you get halfway decent numbers, above 10 Hz? BFD. Of course, even that remains to be seen.

GFL, pal.................

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Re: Is this "Phase IV of Idiot Alert" or "Phase II of.................."
« Reply #17 on: September 16, 2014, 10:57:24 AM »
"Put a harmonic trap in it, son. You'll enjoy it better."
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« Reply #18 on: September 16, 2014, 05:25:09 PM »
Gee, do universities really have Keysight E5505's these days? 

Serious question: Do you think these guys have any idea of what they're looking for and why?
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Re: Is this "Phase IV of Idiot Alert" or "Phase II of.................."
« Reply #19 on: September 17, 2014, 05:26:23 PM »
Gee.  Some obscure guy published a paper about the effects and audibility of low frequency sidebands on audio signals.  OK, it was specific to loudspeakers, but the same thinking applies, does it not? 

http://www.readresearch.co.uk/loudspeaker_papers/klipsch_modulation_distortion_article_1.pdf

Plus...  In digital audio, these effects are present up through the top of the audible range.
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Re: Is this "Phase IV of Idiot Alert" or "Phase II of.................."
« Reply #20 on: September 26, 2014, 12:37:32 PM »
I see one of the usual "experts" continues to demonstrate how little he knows about low phase noise clocks.

How do I get his job?
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Re: Is this "Phase IV of Idiot Alert" or "Phase II of.................."
« Reply #21 on: October 02, 2014, 05:47:20 PM »
Chief Inspector Dreyfus: How can an idiot be a policeman? Answer me that!

Inspector Clouseau: It's very simple... all he has to do is enlist.
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Re: Is this "Phase IV of Idiot Alert" or "Phase II of.................."
« Reply #22 on: October 03, 2014, 10:55:57 PM »
Almost like how does an idiot get to post nonsense on an Internet forum.

He registers.

We really found one, in the MBA.
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« Reply #23 on: October 04, 2014, 05:46:19 AM »
Correction: He found us.

Unless it's all a spoof.
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« Reply #24 on: October 04, 2014, 10:14:04 PM »
I have no idea what his problem is. I have tons of email, from him, trying to get me to back his...................uh..............stupid idea. He tried to get Phred's support, but luckily, the only address he had for Herr Dieckmann bounced. (Of course, he wants me to contact him. Like I need to, in order to know what Phred will think.)

Yes, if we could just all measure and categorize this stuff, we would all get rich. In his world, we already have, and will not share our non-existent data. If he has a degree, he needs to ask for a refund.

Or not. Since I doubt any place, anywhere on earth, could have spawned this stupid idea.
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« Reply #25 on: October 05, 2014, 02:00:58 AM »
Perhaps he works for one of those former regional phone companies.  You know - the ones who now are cellular companies.  They all believe that they are entitled to as much of your money as they can get since they are close to being monopolies. 

Those guys have frameworks.
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Re: Is this "Phase IV of Idiot Alert" or "Phase II of.................."
« Reply #26 on: October 21, 2014, 11:21:53 AM »
Yeah, I thought this guy was supposed to be smart..............

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Added daughter boards and more Xtals. I will probably end up building a phase noise test set out of this stuff. To that end I will be using varactor diodes in series with the crystals to be able to tune them.

Uh.......genius................

We all tried that, long time ago. And the results were ok, but not great. Get with the 21st century, or stop calling yourself a design consultant.

(Remember, this is also the guy who criticizes me, since he does not believe my results. Well, not if you use that crappy method he won't. Good grief.)

In other news..................I think the MBA has left the building. Finally.
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Re: Is this "Phase IV of Idiot Alert" or "Phase II of.................."
« Reply #27 on: October 21, 2014, 02:03:08 PM »
If someone uses 1k/470uF RC filtered TL431 as voltage reference in his follower regulator and calling this "low noise regulator" with 0.7nv/rtHz noise (simulation results) for feeding Xtal clocks, he can be sure I won't consider him as design consultant neither hire him.
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Re: Is this "Phase IV of Idiot Alert" or "Phase II of.................."
« Reply #28 on: October 21, 2014, 06:33:58 PM »
Well, that may not be as bad as you want to believe..............

I won't tell you what I power all my test oscillators with.

Hint: it has 5 small SMD pads, and is really cheap.

In front of that is................I better not tell you.............
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Re: Is this "Phase IV of Idiot Alert" or "Phase II of.................."
« Reply #29 on: October 22, 2014, 02:03:44 AM »
There's more than one way to skin a cat..... but do you believe everything simulation software is telling you?  :o
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